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  • coursin-hill

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    June 27, 2022 at 1:43 pm

    When a God oversteps his bounds it’s the duty of the devil to put him in his place.

    • PokerStatistician

      Member
      June 27, 2022 at 2:48 pm

      Right. Not many people see it that way though. The world needs people willing to rebel against bad laws/rules. Girls love bad boys, evolutionarily there could be something to that.

  • erzcel-boyd

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    June 28, 2022 at 9:10 am

    He didn’t make them see the “truth”. He lied to them. They already knew what the truth was. God did not withhold any truth from them.

    • erzcel-boyd

      Member
      June 28, 2022 at 9:14 am

      So no, he’s not the good guy, he’s fucking evil.

    • PokerStatistician

      Member
      June 28, 2022 at 12:35 pm

      Wasn’t it the tree of good and evil? Eat it and know what God knows. Adam and Eve were ignorant.

  • naml-shabazz

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    June 28, 2022 at 4:18 pm

    in the context of the Christian theology satan (which means adversary in Hebrew) is simply the personification of evil, which would be the direct adversary good

    and since god is considered to be perfect goodness it wouldn’t be logically sound

    however, there is an opposite view from the pagans who where conquered and forcibly converted the snake represented knowledge in the old religions of the area

    and the Christians being represented by god, destroyed the knowledge of the old ways

    • PokerStatistician

      Member
      June 28, 2022 at 7:13 pm

      Interesting. Thanks for that. I must be part Pagan then, I see him as a good guy.

      • naml-shabazz

        Member
        July 7, 2022 at 7:34 pm

        LOL, anytime

        I love a good conversation

  • hunter-rojas

    Member
    July 3, 2022 at 5:05 pm

    He’s not called the Great Deceiver for nothing.

    • PokerStatistician

      Member
      July 3, 2022 at 5:16 pm

      Deceiver if twisting the truth and Informer if showing the truth.

  • bryon-rogers

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    July 4, 2022 at 6:22 pm

    Lucifer was attempting to usurp authority from Yahweh. Overthrow Him and take over management of the kingdom. Additionally, Lucifer is waging war against God’s creations, with the human race being his number one target. Why, out of spite and to grieve Yahweh.

    So, negative. Lucifer is not good guy. Nor is he a libertarian.

    • PokerStatistician

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      July 4, 2022 at 6:30 pm

      Anarchist is super close to antichrist. All the powers at be won’t give up without a massive propaganda fight against total freedom. I’m saying Lucifer is getting the same treatment. But if he wants to be worshipped and isn’t libertarian then it wouldn’t make sense ya.

  • daniel-hohnsbehn

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    July 8, 2022 at 4:37 am

    Perhaps not libertarian but more anarchist, definitely renegade. Definitely defiant of authority.

    I for one have never seen the pursuit of knowledge and truth to be a bad thing.

    His title of “deceiver” seems more of a detraction than anything else; propaganda even, lol

    • PokerStatistician

      Member
      July 8, 2022 at 3:10 pm

      That is the possible view I am giving out. Read revelation with an open mind and see if Satan and the crew are good guys, while the Jesus is an imposter only same in name to the original.